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Davis Relieves Carlson as AEGIS Technical Representative Commanding Officer
May 29, 2015 — MOORESTOWN, N.J. - Capt. Scott Davis relieved Capt. Scott Carlson as the AEGIS Technical Representative's Commanding Officer during a Change of Command ceremony May 29 at the Vice Admiral James H. Doyle, Jr. Combat System Engineering Development Site, commonly known as CSEDS or "The Cruiser in the Cornfield."... MORE

Navy completes USS Harry S. Truman availability at NNSY
May 22, 2015 — NORFOLK, Virginia - USS Harry S. Truman (CVN 75) departed Norfolk Naval Shipyard (NNSY) May 22 following the successful completion of its Carrier Incremental Availability... MORE

USS Freedom (LCS 1) Completes Rough Water Trials
May 21, 2015 — WASHINGTON - The Littoral Combat Ship USS Freedom (LCS 1) completed Seakeeping and Structural Loads Trials, commonly referred to as Rough Water Trials (RWT) in late March the Navy reported today... MORE

Future USNS Brunswick (JHSV 6) Launched
May 19, 2015 — MOBILE, Ala. - The Navy's newest Joint High Speed Vessel (JHSV 6), the future USNS Brunswick, was launched from the Austal USA shipyard here today... MORE

Navy Lays Keel for PCU Indiana
May 18, 2015 — NEWPORT NEWS, VA. - The U.S. Navy held a keel laying ceremony for the Virginia-class submarine Pre-Commissioning Unit (PCU) Indiana (SSN 789) at Huntington Ingalls Industries, -Newport News Shipbuilding, May 16... MORE

Awardees Acclaimed for Achievements Impacting Current, New and Future Technologies Supporting Navy and Joint Warfighters
May 18, 2015 — DAHLGREN, Va. – Eighty-nine individuals and 14 teams were honored with 22 different Navy and... MORE

Caterpillar Inc. Impressed with SERMC Maintenance Process
May 18, 2015 — MAYPORT, Fla. (NNS) -- A former member of the Southeast Regional Maintenance Center (SERMC) returned... MORE

SERMC Sends Reps to Philly for SeaPerch Event
May 18, 2015 — PHILADELPHIA (NNS) -- The Southeast Regional Maintenance Center (SERMC) sent three of its personnel... MORE

SERMC Sends Reps to Philly for SeaPerch Event
May 18, 2015 — TheSoutheast Regional Maintenance Center (SERMC) sent three of its personnel tothe 10th Annual... MORE

Navy Announces Successful Test of Electromagnetic Catapult on CVN 78
May 15, 2015 — WASHINGTON - The Navy conducted the first-ever, shipboard, full-speed catapult shots using the Electromagnetic Aircraft Launch System (EMALS) aboard PCU Gerald R. Ford (CVN 78), Naval Sea Systems Command announced May 15, 2015... MORE

Navy's Air and Missile Defense Radar (AMDR) Completes System Critical Design Review
May 15, 2015 — SUDBURY, MASSACHUSETTS - The Air and Missile Defense Radar (AMDR) program, AN/SPY-6(V), successfully completed its System Critical Design Review (CDR) April 29 the Navy reported today... MORE

Navy Declares Initial Operational Capability for New Rolling Airframe Missile
May 15, 2015 — WASHINGTON - The U.S. Navy successfully achieved Initial Operational Capability (IOC) for the Block 2 Rolling Airframe Missile (RAM) on USS Arlington (LPD 24) today... MORE

DEPSECDEF Loads HVP on Test Range & Observes Repetitive Rate Electromagnetic Railgun’s Commissioning Series
May 8, 2015 — It was more than déjà vu for the Marine as he loaded a hypervelocityprojectile (HVP) into a gun at... MORE

NSWC Dahlgren Division Inventors Honored at Patent Awards Ceremony
May 6, 2015 — DAHLGREN, Va. - Melissa Lederer, Naval Surface Warfare Center Dahlgren Division (NSWCDD) Systems Safety Engineering Division head, presents an award certificate to Greg Buchanan, an NSWCDD Aerospace & Mechanics Engineer, at a ceremony honoring the command's inventors here March 24... MORE

NSWC Crane Holds Ceremony to Celebrate Arrival of EA-6B Prowler
May 5, 2015 — BLOOMINGTON, Indiana - On the morning of Tuesday, May 5, a Navy EA-6B Prowler aircraft performed flyovers of Naval Support Activity (NSA) Crane in route to the Monroe County Airport in Bloomington, Indiana for the final flight of this particular aircraft. A ceremony was held on the tarmac to celebrate the arrival of the retiring Prowler, scheduled to be transported to NSA Crane to become a historical static display. The EA-6B was accompanied by the EA-18G Growler, slated to take over the electronic warfare mission of the Prowler for the Navy... MORE

NSWC Crane STEM Director Wins TechPoint Mira Award for Technology Excellence and Innovation
May 4, 2015 — CRANE, Indiana - TechPoint, Indiana’s technology growth initiative, recognized Naval Surface Warfare Center, Crane Division (NSWC Crane) as one of Indiana’s technology success stories during its annual Mira Awards gala on May 2, at the JW Marriott in downtown Indianapolis. Now in its 16th year, TechPoint’s Mira Awards celebrate the most innovative and successful technologies and technology companies in Indiana, as well as entrepreneurs and educators. ... MORE

JCREW Counter IED Program Approved for Operational Testing
April 30, 2015 — WASHINGTON - The Joint Counter Radio-Controlled Improvised Explosive Device (IED) Electronic Warfare (JCREW) program is approved for operational testing, Naval Sea Systems Command announced, April 30... MORE

SUPSALV clears Fort Pierce Channel of sunken barge
April 23, 2015 — FORT PIERCE, Florida - The Navy's Supervisor of Salvage and Diving (SUPSALV) removed a barge that sank in the Fort Pierce ship channel, 100 yards inside the end of the ocean jetties, Naval Sea Systems Command (NAVSEA) announced April 23... MORE

NSWC Crane Celebrates Anniversary of Cutting-Edge Lab
April 23, 2015 — CRANE, Indiana - This month, Naval Surface Warfare Center, Crane Division (NSWC Crane) hosted a ribbon cutting to celebrate the one-year anniversary of the Global Deterrence and Defense Department’s cutting-edge SPECTRA lab. Scientist Matt Kay and Electrical Engineer Matthew Gadlage, who grew up in Dubois County and work at the new lab, described the satisfaction of hard work and making a difference on national and local levels... MORE

Navy's Oldest Ship Receives Hull Cleaning
April 16, 2015 — BOSTON - USS Constitution "Old Ironsides" received a waterborne underwater hull cleaning and comprehensive inspection in Boston Harbor, April 6-7 in preparation for its upcoming May 19 dry-docking... MORE

JSCoP Roadshow in Search of Shipyard Workers
April 15, 2015 — MAYPORT, Fla. (NNS) -- The Southeast Regional Maintenance Center (SERMC) hosted a JSCoP Roadshow... MORE

Navy Accepts Delivery of USNS Trenton (JHSV 5)
April 13, 2015 — MOBILE, Alabama - The Navy accepted delivery of the USNS Trenton (JHSV 5), its fifth Joint High Speed Vessel, April 13... MORE

Portsmouth Naval Shipyard Wins Two Environmental Awards
April 9, 2015 — KITTERY, Maine - Portsmouth Naval Shipyard (PNSY) was recently announced as the winner of two fiscal year 2014 Secretary of the Navy (SECNAV) Environmental Awards, one for Environmental Restoration-Installation and one for Cultural Resources Management-Small Installation... MORE

SERMC Outfitting New Diver Support Boat
April 8, 2015 — MAYPORT Fla. (NNS) -- The Dive Locker at Southeast Regional Maintenance Center (SERMC) has a new $3... MORE

USS Tornado Shipyard Fire Drill Successful
April 6, 2015 — MAYPORT, Fla. (NNS) -- Southeast Regional Maintenance Center (SERMC) conducted a fire drill April 1... MORE

Carderock Division engineers upgrade Test Model Servicing Device capability
April 2, 2015 — WEST BETHESDA, Md. - The Naval Surface Warfare Center, Carderock, is upgrading the portion of David Taylor Model Basin designed to allow engineers to repair or adjust small-scale ship models without needing to completely remove them from the basin, the Navy announced April 2... MORE

APBI Meeting Helps Connect Industry with NSWC Crane
April 2, 2015 — CRANE, Indiana - Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC), Crane Division hosted its third annual Advanced Planning Briefings for Industry (APBI) meeting on Wednesday, Apr. 1. The APBI meeting provided industry and academia with information on future NSWC Crane technology efforts, requirements and potential contract opportunities in order to help them learn how to do business with the warfare center. This year's theme was "Collaborating for Innovative, Lasting Solutions". ... MORE

NSWC Crane Offers Indiana Companies Business Opportunities
April 1, 2015 — FRENCH LICK, Indiana - The Linton-Stockton Chamber of Commerce hosted Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC), Crane Division’s 18th annual Buy Indiana Expo Tuesday at French Lick Resort and Casino. The event offers companies opportunities to expand their business through contracts with government centers, and more than 300 Crane employees were in attendance... MORE

Author Brenda Jackson Speaks at SERMC's Women's History Month Observance
March 31, 2015 — MAYPORT Fla. (NNS) -- Best-selling romance novelist Brenda Jackson paid a visit to the Southeast... MORE

Future USS John Finn (DDG 113) Launched
March 30, 2015 — PASCAGOULA, Mississippi - The future USS John Finn (DDG 113) was launched at the Huntington Ingalls Industries (HII) shipyard March 28... MORE

Advance EOD Robotic System Team Receives Defense Standardization Award
March 26, 2015 — INDIAN HEAD, Md. (NNS) - The Navy's Tactical Tomahawk missile underwent a successful production acceptance test using Functional Ground Test (FGT) capability at Naval Surface Warfare Center Indian Head Explosive Ordnance Disposal Technology Division's (NSWC IHEODTD) , March 19... MORE

Navy Warfare Center conducts production acceptance test of Tomahawk missile
March 26, 2015 — INDIAN HEAD, Md. (NNS) - The Navy's Tactical Tomahawk missile underwent a successful production acceptance test using Functional Ground Test (FGT) capability at Naval Surface Warfare Center Indian Head Explosive Ordnance Disposal Technology Division's (NSWC IHEODTD) , March 19... MORE

NSWC Crane Receives Hiring Authority
March 24, 2015 — CRANE, Indiana - Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC), Crane Division was given hiring authority to hire more than 350 new employees this fiscal year. For the first time in several years, this authority will account for a small amount of growth in the number of Crane’s government employees... MORE

Navy Amphibious Ship Receives Longer Lasting, More Efficient LED Bulbs
March 19, 2015 — SAN DIEGO - The LPD 17 class program (PMS 317) Program Executive Office, Ships completed installation of light emitting diodes (LED) bulbs on USS Somerset (LPD 25) Feb. 27, replacing legacy shipboard fluorescent light bulbs with longer lasting, more efficient LED bulbs... MORE

Navy Scientists Develop Prototype for Diver Life Support
March 19, 2015 — PANAMA CITY, Florida - Naval Surface Warfare Center Panama City (NSWC PC) scientists have developed a prototype for a new life support system for divers the Navy announced today... MORE

Norfolk Naval Shipyard Welcomes USS La Jolla for Moored Training Ship conversion
March 19, 2015 — NORFOLK, Virginia. - Norfolk Naval Shipyard (NNSY) recently welcomed USS La Jolla (SSN 701) for conversion from an operational fast-attack submarine into a Moored Training Ship (MTS)... MORE

NUWC Newport to Sponsor Mathematics Competition
March 16, 2015 — The Naval Undersea Warfare Center (NUWC) Division, Newport, R.I., will sponsor a mathematics competition dubbed “The Mathcathalon” among middle schools in New Bedford, Mass. on Wednesday, March 18, 2015. The event will be held from 2 to 4:30 p.m. at the Roosevelt Middle School, 119 Frederick St, and will include teams from Normandin, Roosevelt, and Keith middle schools ... ... MORE

Navy Conducts Flyaway Saturation Dive Training, Prepares for Crisis Calls
March 12, 2015 — PANAMA CITY, Florida - For the U.S. Navy's 40 saturation divers, requalification on the Fly Away Saturation Diving System (SATFAD) here this week ensures the Navy retains its deep water recovery capability... MORE

Norfolk Naval Shipyard Performs USS Albany Rudder Repair
March 12, 2015 — NORFOLK, Virginia. - Norfolk Naval Shipyard's (NNSY) Inside Machine Shop successfully performed its first rudder repair since 1991, on USS Albany (SSN 753), which is currently undergoing an Engineered Overhaul... MORE

Portsmouth Naval Shipyard Completes Motor Generator Restoration Ahead of Schedule
March 12, 2015 — PORTSMOUTH NAVAL SHIPYARD, Maine - Portsmouth Naval Shipyard (PNSY) completed restoration of the motor generator set for USS Rhode Island (SSBN 740) three days ahead of schedule Feb. 23... MORE

NAVSEA Commander Visits NSWC Crane
March 12, 2015 — CRANE, Indiana - Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC), Crane Division was privileged to host Vice Admiral William H. Hilarides, Commander of Naval Sea Systems Command (NAVSEA) on Tuesday. The NAVSEA Commander oversees a global workforce of more than 56,000 military and civilian personnel responsible for the development, delivery and maintenance of the Navy's ships, submarines and systems... MORE

Navy Engineer Honored with Prestigious Modern Day Technology Leader Award
March 12, 2015 — DAHLGREN, Va. -- A Navy engineer who impacts the safety of military technologies - including the... MORE

Navy Lays Keel for PCU Colorado
March 10, 2015 — QUONSET POINT, R.I. - The U.S. Navy held a keel laying ceremony for the Virginia-class submarine Pre-Commissioning Unit (PCU) Colorado (SSN 788) at General Dynamics Electric Boat, March 7... MORE

Norfolk Naval Shipyard undocks USS Maryland
March 6, 2015 — NORFOLK, Virginia. - Norfolk Naval Shipyard (NNSY) successfully undocked USS Maryland (SSBN 738) Feb 21... MORE

Crane Inventors Issued New Patents
March 5, 2015 — CRANE, Indiana - This month, Crane employees were issued patents for several inventions developed to enhance the safety, speed and efficiency of the Warfighter... MORE

Future USS Gabrielle Giffords (LCS 10) Launches
February 27, 2015 — MOBILE, Alabama – The future USS Gabrielle Giffords (LCS 10), launched from the Austal USA shipyard Feb. 25, marking an important production milestone for the Littoral Combat Ship (LCS) program... MORE

Navy Lays Keel on Future Littoral Combat Ship Omaha
February 18, 2015 — MOBILE, Alabama - Austal USA shipyard held a keel laying ceremony for the sixth Independence variant littoral combat ship, the future USS Omaha (LCS 12), Feb. 18... MORE

MARMC Partners with SERMC to Assist Fleet in C2X
February 12, 2015 — NORFOLK, Virginia. - The Mid-Atlantic Regional Maintenance Center (MARMC) provided technical and engineering support to the Theodore Roosevelt Carrier Strike Group during a Command and Control Exercise (C2X) off the coast of Florida during the first week of February 2015... MORE

MARMC teams with DARPA to bring Fab Lab to Norfolk
February 12, 2015 — NORFOLK, Virginia - The Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency's (DARPA) Manufacturing Experimentation and Outreach Two (MENTOR2) Program began efforts to enhance defense readiness by improving both the training and tools for sailors at Navy Regional Maintenance Centers, NAVSEA announced Feb. 12... MORE

USS NEW YORK Deploys on Time After Emergent Blade Repair
February 4, 2015 — MAYPORT Florida. -- TheDive Locker at Southeast Regional Maintenance Center in Mayport accomplished... MORE

Portsmouth Naval Shipyard Undocks USS Alexandria
January 29, 2015 — KITTERY, Maine - Employees at Portsmouth Naval Shipyard (PNSY) safely undocked USS Alexandria (SSN 757) on schedule Jan. 21... MORE

Norfolk Naval Shipyard develops cost savings tool for work on USS Albany
January 29, 2015 — PORTSMOUTH, Virginia. - Norfolk Naval Shipyard's (NNSY) Rapid Prototype Lab (RPL) has developed an improved tool for manually honing steering and diving cylinders aboard Los Angeles-class submarines... MORE

Former NSWC Crane Commander Dies
January 27, 2015 — CRANE, Indiana - The Crane community is saddened by news of the recent death of a former commanding officer, Retired US Navy Captain Charles LaSota. The Bloomfield resident, who led Naval Surface Warfare Center, Crane Division (NSWC Crane) from July of 2008 to Oct. of 2011, passed away Monday, Jan. 26 after struggling with pancreatic cancer... MORE

U.S. Navy Scientist Wins NATO Scientific Achievement Award
January 23, 2015 — DAHLGREN, Va. (NNS) -- A U.S. Navy scientist received the 2014 NATO Science and Technology... MORE

NAVSEA to hold media availabilities at Surface Navy Association
January 7, 2015 — WASHINGTON – Key officials from the Naval Sea Systems Command and affiliated program executive offices will hold media availabilities in NAVSEA’s exhibit booth during the 2015 Surface Navy Association annual symposium at the Hyatt Regency in Crystal City, Virginia, Jan. 13-15... MORE

Navy Awards Contract for Ranger Dismantling
December 22, 2014 — WASHINGTON - Today, the Navy awarded a contract for the towing and dismantling of the decommissioned aircraft carrier Ranger (CV 61) to International Shipbreaking Ltd... MORE

DDG 51 Modernization Program Meets Key Milestones
December 22, 2014 — WASHINGTON - The Navy's DDG 51 modernization program has met two key milestones Naval Sea Systems Command (NAVSEA) announced Dec. 22... MORE

AMDR Completes Hardware Critical Design Review on schedule
December 11, 2014 — WASHINGTON - The Air and Missile Defense Radar (AMDR) Programsuccessfully completed a Hardware... MORE

NAVSEA contributions to procedures, hardware make for successful Orion recovery
December 11, 2014 — WASHINGTON - When USS Anchorage (LPD 23) successfully recovered thereusable, unmanned NASA capsule... MORE

Historic Leap: NSWC Dahlgren Division Developed Navy Shipboard Laser Operates in Arabian Gulf
December 11, 2014 — ARLINGTON, Va (NNS) -- Officials at the Office of Naval Research (ONR) announced today the laser... MORE

Luby Relieves Ver Hage as NSWC PHD Commanding Officer
December 4, 2014 — PORTHUENEME, Calif. - Capt. Cord Luby assumed command of Naval Surface WarfareCenter, Port Hueneme... MORE

Future USNS Brunswick (JHSV 6) Keel Authenticated
December 2, 2014 — MOBILE, Alabama - The keel of the future USNS Brunswick (JHSV 6)was authenticated at the Austal USA... MORE

AEGIS Baseline 9 Destroyer Scores Historic Flight Test Mission
November 21, 2014 — WASHINGTON -Sailors aboard the USS John Paul Jones (DDG 53) inpartnership with U.S. Pacific Command... MORE

SEWIP Block Upgrade Program Evaluated for Use on LCS
November 21, 2014 — WASHINGTON -- The Navy is evaluating a scaled-down version ofthe Surface Electronic Warfare... MORE

Fabrication Begins on the Navy's First Ship to Shore Connector
November 17, 2014 — NEW ORLEANS- Textron, Inc. began fabrication of the Navy'sfirst Ship to Shore Connector (SSC) at its... MORE

Future USS Michael Monsoor (DDG 1001) Deckhouse Successfully Integrated
November 14, 2014 — BATH, Maine - The future USS Michael Monsoor (DDG 1001),completed the successful lift and... MORE

Change of Command at Naval Undersea Warfare Center Newport
November 13, 2014 — NEWPORT, R.I. - Navy Capt. Howard Goldman will relieve NavyCapt. Todd Cramer as commander of the... MORE

NSWCDD - ODU Collaboration Enriches Students, Faculty and Navy Technological Programs
November 3, 2014 — NORFOLK, Va. – Old Dominion University and Naval Surface Warfare CenterDahlgren Division (NSWCDD)... MORE

Fabrication Begins for the Future USS Daniel Inouye (DDG 118)
October 31, 2014 — BATH, Maine - The start of fabrication of the future USS Daniel Inouye (DDG 118) was celebrated at the Bath Iron Works (BIW) shipyard Oct. 31... MORE

NSWC Dahlgren System Safety Practitioners Receive SECNAV Safety Excellence Award
October 27, 2014 — WASHINGTON, District of Columbia (NNS) -- Assistant Secretary of the Navy (Energy, Installation and... MORE

Navy and Marine Corps Honored with Popular Mechanics' Breakthrough Award for Innovation
October 22, 2014 — NEW YORK (NNS) -- A Navy civilian engineer and two of his Marine Austere Patrolling System (MAPS)... MORE

Navy Integrates Weapon Systems with Unmanned Vehicles for New Surface Warfare Capability
October 2, 2014 — DAHLGREN, Va. - (NNS) -- Navy engineers used technologies supporting the science of integration to... MORE

Civilian Engineer Awarded by CNO, Becomes New SES as Naval Warfare Deputy Director
September 23, 2014 — WASHINGTON -- A civilian engineer recognized for revolutionizing the Navy with a new mission... MORE

CNO Tours Navy Electromagnetic Railgun and Directed Energy Facilities, Hosts All Hands Call
September 5, 2014 — DAHLGREN, Va. -- Naval Surface Warfare Center Dahlgren Division (NSWCDD) leaders briefed Chief of... MORE

NSWC Scientists Patent Innovative Electromagnetic Technology to Impact Future Navy
August 15, 2014 — DAHLGREN, Va -- A new development in electromagnetic technology patented in May of this year will... MORE

Naval Surface Warfare Center Radar Engineer Receives Blacks in Government Meritorious Service Award
July 28, 2014 — DAHLGREN, Va. -- A Navy civilian radar data collection expert has been selected to receive the... MORE

Students Compete in Navy-Focused Grand Robotics Mission and see their Future in STEM
July 9, 2014 — KING GEORGE, Va. -- Middle school students who completed a Grand Robotics Mission Challenge at the... MORE

Secretary of the Navy Names Safety Excellence Award Winners - NSWC Dahlgren Division Commended for "Safety Integration in Acquisition"
July 7, 2014 — WASHINGTON -- Secretary of the Navy Ray Mabus announced that the System Safety Engineering Division... MORE

Dam Neck Explores Future of 3D Printing for Navy
June 30, 2014 — DAM NECK, Va. (NNS) -- The U.S. Navy hosted its first Maker Faire, a series of workshops titled,... MORE

Navy Scientist Honored for "Pivotal" Impact on Fleet Ballistic Missile Strategic Weapons System's Success
June 30, 2014 — DAHLGREN, Va. -- The scientist described as a "leading force" to the Fleet Ballistic Missile (FBM)... MORE

First UAV Flight Over National Airspace at Dahlgren Supports Navy Combat System Tests
June 23, 2014 — The test flight was the first Unmanned Aerial Systems (UAS) collaborationbetween NSWCDD and Naval... MORE

Awardees Honored for Continuing NSWC Dahlgren's Heritage of Supporting Warfighters with Innovative Technological Solutions
May 13, 2014 — DAHLGREN, Va.—Eighty-two individuals and 18 groups were honored with 21 different Navy and Dahlgren... MORE

Navy Scientist Honored for Leadership in Making Laser Weapons a Reality in the Fleet
May 8, 2014 — DAHLGREN, Va -- The scientist leading Navy Laser Weapon System efforts was commended May 7 at the... MORE

Judges Praise Navy-Mentored STEM Students with Awards - and a Poem
April 24, 2014 — FAIRFAX. Va. -- What do Dancing with the Stars and American Idol competitors have in common with... MORE

Retired Army Lieutenant Colonel Awarded Legion of Merit at Naval Surface Warfare Center Dahlgren Division
April 22, 2014 — DAHLGREN, Va. -- Lt. Col. Jill Wagner, U.S. Army Ret., was awarded the Legion of Merit before an... MORE

Captains Praise Four Navy-Mentored STEM Students Slated to Compete at SeaPerch National Competition
April 15, 2014 — DAHLGREN, Va. -- Four Dahlgren School students believe their plans to "courageously, calmly and... MORE

Navy Engineers Honored with Army Awards for Protecting MV Cape Ray Crew with CBR Defense System
March 14, 2014 — DAHLGREN, Va. -- Navy engineers received Army awards March 11 for their efforts to protect personnel... MORE

Physics Professor Enlightens, Inspires, Empowers and Touches Navy Audience about STEM and Diversity
February 25, 2014 — DAHLGREN, Va - Enlightening. Inspirational. Empowering. Touching. That's how Naval Surface Warfare... MORE